# Conundrum: Orthogonal Persistence

**URL:** <https://community.spritely.institute/t/conundrum-orthogonal-persistence/23>\
**Category:** Conundrums\
**Tags:** ocaps, una\
**Created:** [January 27, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.spritely.institute/t/conundrum-orthogonal-persistence/23 "2022-01-27T19:32:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![markm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.spritely.institute/markm/32/118_2.png) [@markm](https://community.spritely.institute/u/markm)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.spritely.institute/t/conundrum-orthogonal-persistence/23/5 "2022-10-06T23:26:09Z")

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> [@Conundrum: \[Object\] Upgrade](https://community.spritely.institute/t/conundrum-object-upgrade/24/6):
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> At Agoric we have both orthogonal persistence and upgrade. They are fully separated from each other, which turns out to be great. I had underestimated the benefits of this separation.

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